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How to fix the issues with trouble code P0420?
Hello,
I have a old Mercedes ML550 (2009) with over 150k miles on it. Last week, Chkengine light came on with a code P0420. Looks like the catalistic converter is bad, probably because of the high mileage.
Here are my options:
1) use C.C. cleaner ;
2) remove the C.C. and clean the inside with hi pressure water gun;
3) replace the C.C. with an aftermarket one.
Any recommendation is welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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P0420 can also be caused by faulty oxygen sensor, exhaust system leak, or intake leak. Don't know much about CC cleaners, but I doubt they work. You need to make sure what the issue is that is causing the code.
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Thanks Whittsend for the quick return. If the oxy sensor is bad, there should be a diff. code like P0136/0536, correct? I doubt there is leak either from exhaust or intake systems. I don't hear any noise at acceleration. The still feels peppy and powerful. I will take your advice first by replacing the upstream oxy sensor first and see what happens.
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would likely just buy an aftermarket converter.
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Since a P0420 code is not a series problem and usually doesn't affect performance very much, I would be reluctant to start swapping parts and throwing money at it. It very well could be a bad converter, but before I spent that kind of money, I would try some diagnostics. There are a couple of different ways you can test converters and I would want to do that first. I would also be very careful about aftermarket converters. There are some good ones out there, but there are also some really bad ones. Do your homework and research before spending that kind of money.
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I agree with you Whittsend. The trouble code P0420 does not hurt performance much but the car will have to be taken for inspection. i don't think it can pass it with 'ChkEngine' light on, correct?
One thing that lost me was as I tried to erase the code using OBD II device, it wouldn't let me. Sorry that I didn't take down the message about refusing to erase the code. I will try again soon and let you know.
I saw some videos which recommended washing the converter after it's taken off from the car. Would you think it's doable?
Thanks.
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Don't know anything about washing converters. I guess if the guts of the converter is covered would carbon then cleaning it might help, But I would assume that if the converter got that foiled up, it's not doing is job properly and would need to be replaced.
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I've never heard of washing out a CC.
The only ones I have ever seen are welded on. They don't use clamps anymore as far as I know. If I had to cut it off, then splice & weld it back on, I wouldn't even attempt at washing it out.
I dont think attempting to wash out a CC would be an option for me anyway regardless of the trouble. If I removed it, I'd put a new one on. Especially with a 2009 w/150,000 miles.
But I think I'd seriously investigate some other options before I attempted anything with a CC.
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Thanks Dixie2012, Alan73 and Whittsend for all your tips. I will keep you posted about what happens.
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depends on your states inspection requirements but you probably need to try another scan tool to clear the codes with, often this code may not return very quickly may take a week or so of driving it so it may be possible to clear it and get it inspected and the light be off if that is all they check for in the most basic inspections states there more concerned about brakes, suspension, and steering but the more emissions related inspections will likely analyze the exhaust and it would need to pass and they likely hook a scanner and see the codes was cleared recently.
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Most codes only require one instance of an abnormal reading to be set off but can take anywhere from a few to 40 or more stop/start cycles of the engine, without the ECM seeing the same abnormal reading before they clear. The few tanks of gas may have had nothing to do with it.
It only takes one faulty reading to set the code, but lots of no faulty for them to clear themselves. It may have been the gas or it may have been the cycles.
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I must say Tolyn is lucky that the code went away by itself. I doubt if I have that kind of luck.
Let me try Alan's idea by switch to a diff. OBD device since I have two of them. Will let you know.
Thanks guys!
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